Liturgical and Spiritual Musings from a Unique City Parish
Thursday, 10 June 2010
Future trends at S. Magnus....
I think you can guess where this is going.....apparelled amices and pear-shaped chasubles are already making inroads in the Parish, and more than one person has suggested we crown the Pieta, add some tears of real crystal and parade her on Good Friday under the title "La Santisima Virgen de los Dolores La del Puente"....
Do aparelled amices go with pear-shaped chasubles?ReplyDelete
Now the photograph of tuncicled acolytes and a tuncicled thurifer...
Well, the gold set we got from Nashdom has an aparelled amice which was allegedly worn by the celebrant, although it does look a bit odd with the stole on too.ReplyDelete
Do you approve of the tunicled ministers? I'm in the mood to support things the SCR thinks are an abuse. The thin-sleeved surplice?/cotta? thing in the first photo is quite elegant and certainly more practical than loose sleeves dripping with Brussels lace.....
I most certainly approve of tunicled ministers. The late Fr. Quentin Montgommery-Wright was one of the few Roman clergy who had any real sense of liturgical celebration. He had virtually all his serving team in tunciles and cantors in copes. Very effective.ReplyDelete
As a golden rule of thumb whatever the SRC decreed about a subject should be ignored and the opposite carried out.
I wonder whether the first photo actually shows a variant of a rochet. Surplices should have full, bell-shaped, sleeves. If Ecclesial circumstances so dictate they can then be dyed black and be reworn as the riassa.
I wonder if we oughtn't stock up on surplices now just in case the Ordinariate doesn't work out ;-)ReplyDelete
If the Ordinariate does not work out no amount of pretty surplices will save the situation. In face of the inevitability of women bishops there is no further opportunity of developing its precepts and principles within the Church of England and the Anglican Communion. The game is up.ReplyDelete
Nonsense. There are plenty of Anglo-Catholic parishes in ECUSA and they have had women bishops for ages. I find it highly unlikely that the whole Anglo-Catholic wing of the C of E will start going to Fr. O'Casey's folk mass on a Saturday evening at 6....ReplyDelete
A convenient parody - I attended solemn high Mass this morning, in full communion with the See of Peter. You won't find many folk masses these days.ReplyDelete
There may be fewer folk masses, but you still have to believe that folk masses (past or present) in full communion with the Bishop of Rome are valid whereas a reverent, orthodox and beautiful celebration of the Mass in an Anglo-Catholic parish is not. The 'smoke of Satan' entered the Roman church some time ago, and it is not gone just because maniples are now in and guitars are out.ReplyDelete
The key issue with anglican churches isn't about what the priest wears or how much smoke ex fide can get out of the thurible- its about the validity of priestly ordainations.ReplyDelete
The CofE is not in communion with Rome.
Whats worse? A folk Mass or an invalid Mass?
And here I am looking at the first picture and wondering whether a heavy truck passing in the street could knock one of those candles over and set the whole place ablaze. Obviously I am not good A-C material.ReplyDelete
Women bishops or not, two hundred years from now there will still be Anglo catholic parishes in the Anglican Communion . The "see of Peter" cannot confer any validity whatsoever to Anglican, Old Catholic or Orthodox liturgies, because to be a Catholic one does not have to be in communion with Rome, the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental churches being a historical witness to that.ReplyDelete